Poore, Thomas III

Male 1700 - 1754 (1744)


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  • Name  Poore, Thomas III 
    Born  1700  Henrico Goochland Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Died  1754 (1744)  Goochland Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I639  Poore Maddox
    Last Modified  22 Jan 2015 

    Father  Poore, Thomas Jr,   b. 30 Oct 1681 (1660), Devon Co England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1713, Devon Co England must be Goochland Va Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  Gills, Susanah,   b. 1683, Devon Co England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1750, Devon Co England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F451  Group Sheet

    Family 1  Haden, Susanah (Susanna),   b. 14 Feb 1706, Goochland Virginia Baptized St. James Northam, Goochland Va. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1766, Goochland Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  Abt 1720  Goochland Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    >1. Poore, Abraham,   b. 7 Dec 1725or16Jun 1730, Goochland Virginia? or Prince Edward Co Va. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Jun 1792(1786-91), Goochland Virginia (will) Mom?Mary Find all individuals with events at this location
    >2. Poore, Robert “Robin”,   b. 1723, Hanover Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1797, Goochland Va. Find all individuals with events at this location
    >3. Poore, Thomas IV Jr,   b. 1721, Goochland Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Feb 1788, Goochland Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    >4. Poore, Mary,   b. 1730, Goochland Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. Poore, Jewel
     6. Poore, Trudy
     7. Poore, Susanna
     8. Poore, Elizabeth
     9. Poore, Mildred
     10. Poore, Jeanie (Jenny)
    Family ID  F447  Group Sheet

    Family 2  Estes, Susannah,   b. Abt 1692, St Stephen's Parish King & Queen Co Va. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1754, Goochland Va. Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  1720  Goochland Va. Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Poore, Thomas
    Family ID  F2258  Group Sheet

  • Notes 

    • Thomas Poore Sr. of St Martins Parish, Hanover Co. for L50, 400 acres as by patent 21 Nov 1734 on the north side of James River.

      1739 Deed 18 June 1739 John Cobbs of St. James Parish,Goochland Cp., to THOMAS POOR, Sr. of St Martins Parish, Hanover Co for 50 pounds, 400 acres as by patent 21 Nov 1734 , on north side o James River, bounded by Jonas Lawson. Wit. Arthur Hoopkins, Thos. Whorton, Martin (MD) Duncan Signed John Cobbs Recorded 19 June 1739.

      THOMAS POOR Sr. was Grantee from THOMAS Oct 9 1744 land deed. (found microfilm reel 20 pg.787 Goochland Va General index to Deed , Wills 1728-1839 Grantees A-Z Richmond Va. Library)
      Found in Goochland Va. copy : Goochland Co Va Court Orders 1728-1779 Court Order book #4 1741-1744 Pg 34 Susann Cobb wife of john Cobb, relinquished her dower rights in land involved in a deed to Thomas Poor, (May Ct 1742)

      (NOTE by DCR; Could Susanna and John Cobb have been the parents of Thomas Poor's wife Susanna?)
      pg500 THOMAS POOR acknowledges a deed tp Thomas Poor, Jr.. Thomas, Sr."s wife Susannah relinquishes her dower right in the property. (Oct Ct 1744)
      pg 501 John Mosley acknowledges a deed to Thomas Poor, Jr and Elizabeth, his wife. (Oct Ct 1744). No wife joins in this deed from John Mosley. (see Deed Bk 4 p 434-435)
      (Not by DCR: Thomas Poor, Jr's wife Elizabeth is a daughter of the John Mosley in this record.) ON 9 Oct 1744 Thomas Poor Granted to Thomas Poor, Jr. & Elizabeth Poor Land. Have written proof.

      1750; Thomas Poore on a jury Goochland,Va.
      Thomas Poor Grand Jury 1754
      Thomas Poor appointed surveyor of the road Nov 1754
      Do NOT believe that Thomas was in Andover Mass as it is not his family line, different wife Mary Adams.

      There is a posting of Thomas Poor(e) III abt 1689 married Susannah Estes, confirmed children Abraham 1725 St Martin Parish Va maybe, Thomas (V 1721 and Robert (Robin) about 1729 from a Lori Hunt ZierdenGoochland Co Va. Wills 1742-1749 Richmond 2012.:1746 land transfer from John Bibey to Thomas Poore

      The ‘Eastern’ Poores and Powers of the York, James and Chowanoke settlements had moved closer to the western boundaries of the Tidewater by 1729. Since John Powers’ grant at King Williams County in 1657, his descendants or relations had expanded to Isle of Wight, Hanover, Louisa and Goochland Counties by 1722. Since I feel that John Powers was originally of the Hampshire branch, I cannot visualize these ‘Eastern’ Powers as being part of the Scotch-Irish migrations. They were already firmly placed before it began. If Innocent Poore (1623) of Elizabeth City left posterity, they also had shifted westward to Surry County and beyond as tobacco plantations spread west along the Carolina line.
       
      Throughout this narrative will be mentions of counties, but it is very difficult to define a location to a given time. The counties evolved as settlement increased. The original districts were Charles City, Henrico, Kecoughton (Elizabeth City) and James City. The ‘shires’ or counties began in 1634: James City, Charles City, Accomac, Charles River (York), Henrico, Warrosquoyoake (Isle of Wight), Elizabeth City (extinct) and Warwick River (extinct). From these, new counties branched off, decade by decade. King William’s County, where John Powers settled in 1657, did not exist until 1701 when it was created from the older King and Queen County. There will be more on the evolution of counties later.
       
      Finally, Thomas Poore of the Chowanoke grants at Mount Wells resurfaces. If he were an absentee landlord in 1663 when he received the grants, he would have sent in relatives as tenants. I believe that Thomas was my ancestral uncle and left Andover MA as an anti-Puritan. There were many, labeled as being ‘of Dorchester’, who fled to Barbados, Virginia and Charleston, South Carolina. When the horrible Indian massacres in the Jamestown region occurred in 1622, the Poores of Elizabeth City VA might have become extinct with the 1623 death of Innocent Poore. The Poore lands would have remained, however. Thomas may have been sent there as an administrator, initially. I see him as being a family official of some sort, with access to the islands and England. He was probably the secretary (clerk) of record to the governor of Barbados in the 1660s. As many others did, he retained a home in Hampshire or Wiltshire, plus his land in Massachusetts and Virginia. He is the most likely person to have been the father to Thomas Poore, born in England, in 1660, with an English wife named Elizabeth or Elizabetha. They had three children, Thomas, William and Elizabeth. Their son Thomas acquired, probably through Thomas Sr., land in Virginia. I am sure that it would have been in old Henrico County near Goochland City. Thomas Sr.’s grandson, Thomas Poore III (1700-1754) settled in Goochland County about 1720.
       
      William, the second son of Thomas Sr., may have taken up residence on the North Carolina lands at Chowanoke. If so, his children would have slowly migrated westward as well.  In 1700, ‘Chowan’ had no defined boundaries. By 1740 the Chowan lands had become the limitless Bertie County, which shared the Piedmont with Craven and Bladen. They were defined by the rivers and swept westward across Tennessee to the Mississippi River. Edgecombe County did not exist at all in 1732 when Ned Poor appeared on the tax rolls, at present Edgecombe Co. Frances Poer Fox, a cousin from Texas, descends from David Poer (1744-1808).  In her family tree, “Ned” is written in the margin.  It may have been David’s father’s name.  1732 was far too early for Scotch-Irish immigration this far south, unless the Edgecombe Co. Poors came directly from Ulster to Carolina, which I doubt. There were some Ulstermen at the eastern plantations as indentured servants. When their indenture was served, they were granted ‘Freeman’ status and went west to seek their own land.
       
      As for Thomas Poore Sr., I must finally put him to rest. Connecting the factual Thomas with Thomas Poore of Barbados and Massachusetts is total speculation, but it could have happened. Many things may have occurred in his later life. He may have lost his wife in England and sold his properties. Returning to Andover after his older sister and brothers began to die in 1680, Thomas finished out his life alone and died in 1695.
       
      Three fourths of all land west of the fall line was still wilderness, from South Carolina to Pennsylvania. It remained Indian Territory and only a few adventurous Easterners ventured there. The smaller tribes had suffered decades of being pushed deeper into the backcountry. Thousands, with no built-in immunity had succumbed to disease. In the Carolina Piedmont, the Siouan Catawba owned the fertile central zone and remained friendly. They stood as a barrier to the warlike Cherokee in the west. Closest to the settlements had been the Tuscarora, an Iroquoian nation related to the Cherokee. Even with the Catawba as a barrier, Shawnee and Cherokee raided the Tuscarora for years. The wars became so intense that the Tuscarora moved eastward, encroaching upon English lands. In 1711, the colonists attacked the Tuscarora as well. The once powerful tribe sent delegations north, to New York. They sought asylum with their northern cousins, the League of the 5 Nations. After negotiations that lasted until 1712, the Iroquois appointed the Oneida as sponsors for the Tuscarora. They were granted permission to remove to Oneida lands, but would undergo a 10-year probation period. By 1729 the Tuscarora had abandoned all of their Carolina lands and retired to New York. From that point forward, the Iroquois became the 6 Nations.
       
      Virginia had known about its western regions since 1666, when Henry Batte (Batts of Salisbury, Wiltshire) had crossed the mountains to the Great Kanawha River of West Virginia. He found there a tribe named Xualae, near the Ohio River at the mouth of the Kanawha. The name seems to be of Siouan origin, possibly linking them to the Omaha of Nebraska. “Xu” in Omaha refers to the sacred color brown, for the Earth. The prefix is found with medicine rites of the ancient mother clan Honga. When the Omaha groups migrated west in the 1500s, the Xualae remained in the old homeland. In 1671, they were all but exterminated by the Cherokee, who were in turn driven south again by the Iroquois in 1672.
       
      In 1701 the colonial government of Virginia tried to get people to settle the backcountry, but there were few takers. Vast tracts of 10 to 30 thousand acres were offered tax-free for 10 years. This may be when present Goochland and Hanover Counties were settled. Individuals could receive 50-acre tracts in the western lands as long as there would be at least one-armed man for every 500 acres. To the Tidewater colonists, the ‘West’ was far away and full of danger.
       
      In 1716, Governor Spotwood of Virginia personally led an expedition up the Rapidan River and crossed the Blue Ridge Mountains. Beyond, he found a vast and beautiful valley with the larger Appalachian Range beyond. The river found there he named the Euphrates, but it has always been called by its Indian name, Shenandoah. The great “Valley of Virginia” stretched from the Potomac on the Maryland border 200 miles south to present Roanoke, VA. Herds of Elk and woods buffalo roamed the wide grasslands along the river. This narrow but fertile valley became the highway for the migrations to come.

      Source Eastwind=Westwind on line Nov 2014 Chapter 54

      At Goochland Co. on the James, Thomas Poore and John Powers’ descendants were mingling, forging their individual dynasties. From this central location west of present Richmond, the Poore-Power branches pushed both south and west, combining the ‘territories’ of the English-based old line with that of the newer Scotch-Irish clans. There are so many references of early family in Goochland that it is important to realize the original size of this county. It was created in 1729 from Henrico County. The original Goochland took up a major portion of central Virginia, including modern Chester, Powhatan, Cumberland, Buckinghamshire, Appomattox, Amherst, Nelson, Fluvanna and Albemarle counties. For those who may be researching the records of Thomas Poore, Abraham Poore or the assorted Powers of Goochland, look at all related county sources. I believe this large county was a major ancestral starting point, which coincided with the separate Scotch-Irish migrations through the Valley of the Shenandoah.
       
      There is an outside chance that William Poore (1720-1780) was of the Thomas Poore group of England and not from the Scotch-Irish clans. The original Thomas of England had two sons, Thomas Jr. and William. Thomas Jr. founded the Goochland Poores. His brother William may have been granted lands at either Chowanoke Plantation or old Elizabeth City County. If so, his son(s) could have migrated westward to present Pittsylvania County.
       
      Source eastwind-Westwind Chaper 56 on line Nov 2014


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